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	<title>Comments on: Does it Really Take $100M to Build a SaaS Business? Say it ain’t so, Joe!</title>
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		<title>By: Software as a Service (SaaS) - Measuring Your CAC Effectiveness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Software as a Service (SaaS) - Measuring Your CAC Effectiveness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recently, I&#8217;ve had a few conversations with people regarding my version of the Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) ratio. As a reminder, my version of the CAC ratio is: [($Total Sales + $Total Marketing)/$First Year Contract Value]. The objective is to make the CAC ratio less than 1 which implies a customer acquisition payback of a year or less. This is the ratio I recommend companies use to measure their sales/marketing effectiveness. I discussed this a year or so ago in this blog in a post titled &#8220;Does it Really Take $100M to Build a SaaS Business? Say it ain’t so, Joe!&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recently, I&#8217;ve had a few conversations with people regarding my version of the Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) ratio. As a reminder, my version of the CAC ratio is: [($Total Sales + $Total Marketing)/$First Year Contract Value]. The objective is to make the CAC ratio less than 1 which implies a customer acquisition payback of a year or less. This is the ratio I recommend companies use to measure their sales/marketing effectiveness. I discussed this a year or so ago in this blog in a post titled &#8220;Does it Really Take $100M to Build a SaaS Business? Say it ain’t so, Joe!&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,
Your comments are correct and I have to admit I was suprised Sarah didn&#039;t make these points. When I read the article a few days ago I almost felt it was Oracle propaganda given Larry&#039;s recent bashing of SaaS.

We&#039;re based in Australia and have operated in the SaaS space for over 6 years. We&#039;ve seen other companies come and go, primarily because they hadn&#039;t got their heads around the revenue model. They have these wild expectations that they will get a huge chuck of coin up front rather than subscription revenue spread over time.

Having said that, I was very suprised recently to learn that Salesforce.com has changed their concept of subscription revenue to involve up front payments - generally 1 - 2 years in advance. This looks and feels like traditional software licensing to me.

Having lived and worked in Boston, I would suggest the difficulties experienced in the US market are exacerbated by US GAAP where revenue recognition plays an important part in reporting of quarterly and annual results.

I was at a Sales 2.0 conference a while ago and Stu Schmidt from Webex spoke about how they operate in the SaaS model. They are a very good example of what you talk about with respect to changing the sales model to put greater focus on the inside sales team and the tools to close sales via the lowest cost option (i.e. not getting on a plane).

We follow a similar model to Webex (though it seems to be the defacto standard in the SaaS market now). We focus the majority of our sales effort on remote delivery/qualification, and only invest in face to face selling when the opportunity is well qualified and we&#039;re confident the potential project revenue (i.e. professional services) can sustain the f2f cost. Our experience shows that if we can get the new customer past the first 6 months, the stickiness increases significantly. Guess where we focus our customer service efforts?

cheers from down under</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,<br />
Your comments are correct and I have to admit I was suprised Sarah didn&#8217;t make these points. When I read the article a few days ago I almost felt it was Oracle propaganda given Larry&#8217;s recent bashing of SaaS.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re based in Australia and have operated in the SaaS space for over 6 years. We&#8217;ve seen other companies come and go, primarily because they hadn&#8217;t got their heads around the revenue model. They have these wild expectations that they will get a huge chuck of coin up front rather than subscription revenue spread over time.</p>
<p>Having said that, I was very suprised recently to learn that Salesforce.com has changed their concept of subscription revenue to involve up front payments &#8211; generally 1 &#8211; 2 years in advance. This looks and feels like traditional software licensing to me.</p>
<p>Having lived and worked in Boston, I would suggest the difficulties experienced in the US market are exacerbated by US GAAP where revenue recognition plays an important part in reporting of quarterly and annual results.</p>
<p>I was at a Sales 2.0 conference a while ago and Stu Schmidt from Webex spoke about how they operate in the SaaS model. They are a very good example of what you talk about with respect to changing the sales model to put greater focus on the inside sales team and the tools to close sales via the lowest cost option (i.e. not getting on a plane).</p>
<p>We follow a similar model to Webex (though it seems to be the defacto standard in the SaaS market now). We focus the majority of our sales effort on remote delivery/qualification, and only invest in face to face selling when the opportunity is well qualified and we&#8217;re confident the potential project revenue (i.e. professional services) can sustain the f2f cost. Our experience shows that if we can get the new customer past the first 6 months, the stickiness increases significantly. Guess where we focus our customer service efforts?</p>
<p>cheers from down under</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waldron</title>
		<link>http://www.interwest.com/software-as-a-service/on-demand/does-it-really-take-100m-to-build-a-saas-business-say-it-aint-so-joe/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waldron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  I read a few of your other posts and wanted to know if you would be interested in exchanging blogroll links?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  I read a few of your other posts and wanted to know if you would be interested in exchanging blogroll links?</p>
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